Sitting with The New York Times’ Pulitzer Prize-winning executive editor Dean Baquet, JAY Z bears all. Seeing how the only time we’ve really heard Hov discuss his troubled past with his wife, Beyonce was on 4:44, this interview fulfills a lot of questions we’ve had about the two’s marital issues and how they moved past it without separating.
Not only does Hov reveal that he and Beyonce were in fact working on joint material, he also explains how Lemonade was a result of that. “We were working on material together and it became LEMONADE,” he explained. “She went off and did her thing and it was like, it just felt like she should go first and she should share her truths with the world. It wasn’t based on, ‘I have to say something because of this album.’ It wasn’t even like that. It was just really honest.”
Hov continues to detail how creating Lemonade and 4:44 were like “therapy sessions” for the power couple. “It was uncomfortable. And we had a lot of conversations,” he explained. “[I was] really proud of the music she made, and she was really proud of the art I released. We really have a healthy respect for one another’s craft. I think she’s amazing. Most people walk away, and divorce rate is like 50 percent or something ’cause most people can’t see themselves. The hardest thing is seeing pain on someone’s face that you caused, and then have to deal with yourself.”
Later on in the convo, Mr. Carter jumps into racism in America, Dave Chapelle’s leadership qualities, his legacy in rap, President Obama, and his relationship with Kanye West in which he explains how there’s still a little bit of tension between the two.